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Upload Wizard not working for files from Flickr[edit]

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T358414

For about 18 hours or so, Upload Wizard has not been working for files from Flickr. It starts taking the information fine, but when "publish" is pressed, it just goes into a holding pattern as if it's processing but it never uploads (I tried letting one run for more than half an hour to see if it was just very slow, but still no results.) I've tried on 2 different machines, and I note another user noted being unable to upload from Flickr on Commons:Village pump/Technical. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 18:03, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The same thing is happening to me. -- Pedroperezhumberto (talk) 19:05, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see I'm not the first person to have this problem...
Category:Statue of Queen Victoria, Geelong is thus empty. What I intended to upload is this file. Schwede66 23:40, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This has also been raised at Commons:Village pump#The way to upload images via Flickr is completely broken with the claim that all methods of uploading images through Flickr have been completely damaged.
Commons:Flickr2Commons and Commons:Flickypedia both seem fine now, if they were ever broken, but the Upload Wizard is still hanging on Flickr uploads today. Belbury (talk) 18:43, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh thank you, I'm not alone on this - I've had to go back and forth setting my own Flickr posts onto CC-BY-SA and back to 'All Rights Reserved' because of this since last night. For me on the regular Flickr2Commons, it is hanging for me on "Submitting details". I get it would be easier to just upload the raw files on my hard drive instead of from Flickr, but... I don't know, I feel it wouldn't be right in some way. Hullian111 (talk) 17:05, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OFL template not recognized as correct license by UploadWizard[edit]

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T359763

The UploadWizard does not recognize the OFL license template as proper license beginning from today --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 10:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, the problem is resolved :) --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 18:39, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback needed on proposed changes to Describe step[edit]

Hi all! As part of our work on improving UploadWizard, we are now collecting feedback on some proposed changes to its "Describe" step. Please, feel free to join our discussion in our project talk page, and share your feedback. We are looking for your opinion to improve further our suggested changes. Thanks in advance to those who will participate! Sannita (WMF) (talk) 11:16, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Specify the same descriptions for all files and publish immediately[edit]

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T360115

Hi, could a setting be added in the description section where a description only needs to be entered for one file, this description is then copied to all uploaded files and the files are published immediately? This would speed up the uploading of multiple files if you don't need to create individual descriptions for each file. With 500 uploaded files at once, you always have to scroll down the entire list of files with input masks to reach the "Publish" button, which takes several minutes until all the input fields for each file are displayed and rendered.

Similar to this is the function "Specify the same information for all files" in the "Select license" step.

Perhaps a button could be added directly under the section "Copy information for all following files to be uploaded..." in the "Describe" step to add a button for publication.

Thank you and best regards --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 13:43, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Release rights resetted for every upload[edit]

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T360515

Since I can recall and up until not long ago, as long as I didn't close the browser window, the Upload Wizard would remember my release rights choices between every file batch (set the release rights while uploading the first files -> "upload more files" -> the UW would keep as default the choice I made during the first upload, unless I specifically chose to change it). Now it doesn't anymore. Is it just my browser or was this actually changed? Can we change it back? Because that's a bit annoying when you are uploading lots of files in different batches... Syrio posso aiutare? 17:42, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Syrio, thanks for noticing. I opened a Phabricator ticket about this problem, will try to let you know as soon as possible. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 10:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks! -- Syrio posso aiutare? 11:01, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I am experiencing the same issue - not only release rights, but also both "Where did you find these works" and "Enter the name..." windows are emptied. Since there is more than a month gone after the issue was reported - when can a fix be expected? Like this the upload wizard is unusable for me. Sincerely, Arjoopy (talk) 08:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are 4 questions that I need to answer every time I use the upload wizard. One of them is the license and there are three valid options for that. But having to click to say that the files are my own work and were not created using AI is a really tedious burden. That might be useful for new users but I urge that this is removed or at not least reset for every upload for established users. Frupa (talk) 17:13, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Campaign:Heritage Lens[edit]

I am really not understanding why the upload page displays the afterActive template instead of whileActive template. I checked the dates supplied in the campaign are right. It starts on 26 March and ends on 28 March. beforeActive template was rightly falling back when I checked yesterday. What could be the possible issue? TheAafi (DCW) (talk) 08:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Romaine, your help is required. TheAafi (DCW) (talk) 18:23, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Template:Heritage Lens whileActive is shown during the campaign, the template says the campaign has ended. So he problem is in this template and not the campaign. Romaine (talk) 18:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I fixed it. There appeared a slight error in timer. TheAafi (DCW) (talk) 10:37, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upload Wizard delay[edit]

I am uploading 9 photos at once. I clicked "Publish files" and nothing happens. It doesn't say it's uploading or anything so how do I know if it is at all? Does it take a while? I would've expected it to say "Uploading..." or something along those lines so am unsure if there's any progress at all. JaumeBG (talk) 22:07, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All sorted in the end. Have uploaded the photos via the phone app instead. Thanks. JaumeBG (talk) 23:35, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian English doesn't recognize the same as English[edit]

Hi,

My language set for Commons is Canadian English. When I open the Upload Wizard, it says "Sorry, we could not find a tutorial in your language. The English one is shown instead."

This is a bug that should be fixed. Canadian English is English. Thanks! Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 13:36, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Myrealnamm Hi, thanks for your comment. It seems it is a problem of translations and fallback languages. Have you tried fixing this in your preferences, explicating EN-CA, and then EN as languages? Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sannita (WMF): even without particular user settings, shouldn't 'en-whatever' fall back to 'en'? - Jmabel ! talk 18:39, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Sannita (WMF), thanks for your reply. I am not sure which setting to change. Is it "Translation options, assistant language"? That is currently set to default.
However, in the Internationalization section of User Profile, the language is set to en-CA - Canadian English. I would rather not change that because I do prefer Canadian English. Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 21:23, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Myrealnamm Yes, try put EN-CA, and then EN as values. Maybe it will work. If it doesn't, I'll open a Phabricator ticket and let the developers investigate the problem.
@Jmabel Yep, it should do that, but I guess another solution would be to translate the tutorial into Canadian English to solve the problem. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 08:46, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sannita (WMF) There doesn't seem to be a "translate" button. I will try to change the language. Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 21:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I changed my language in Special:Preferences from en-CA to en. After saving, the "sorry, we could not find a tutorial in your language........" doesn't show anymore. When I changed it back to en-CA, the message "sorry, we could not find...." comes back. Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 21:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Myrealnamm My guess is that a tutorial in Canadian English is missing, and that's why this message occurs to you. Either the English tutorial is adapted to your version, or you just click on the preference to not show the tutorial when you upload medias. But I'll open a ticket about this fallback not working, and let you know. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 09:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 11:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cannot upload using the license "CC BY-ND 4.0 DEED"[edit]

I am not able to upload photos because the license they are using is "CC BY-ND 4.0 DEED" and apparently there is no wikitext format for that license. Agaboy6000 (talk) 17:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

{@Agaboy6000: Hi,
That's normal. This license is not accepted on Commons. Any file should be modifiable for any purpose. Yann (talk) 17:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the clarification! Agaboy6000 (talk) 17:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Issues on the new version[edit]

I noticed that a new version has been put in use today, but it consumes more spaces of memory than the previous version, and it can't copy the descriptions even if the "same as caption" is not selected. From this version, captions became compulsory, but I don't know why this change was made. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 14:01, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@N509FZ Hi, thanks for your comment. Can you please elaborate a bit better on the two points? Especially the "can't copy the descriptions": were you trying to upload more than one media and then copy the description of the first media to the others? If so, it is a bug and it should be fixed, but before filing a Phabricator ticket for this I want to be sure about what to write. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:13, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I belive that what N509FZ was trying to say is that the Wizard no longer grabs the metadata description if such is available.
Or maybe it still grabs the metadata description, but this autofilled description then gets deleted by the "same as caption" gimmick and doesn't get restored if and when the user turns off the gimmick. - Dvaderv2 (talk) 15:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Plus, when trying to add more files after filling descriptions of an uploading file, the just-filled description would vanish after returning from "Upload" to "Describe". Thus, I'm still skeptical about this glitchy new version. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 01:58, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@N509FZ Can I ask you to describe step-by-step what you're doing and the problem you're encountering in a Phabricator ticket and then link it back to me here? I'm not sure I understood what is happening, and I fear I might describe the wrong process. Thanks in advance! Sannita (WMF) (talk) 08:51, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Try to upload something by yourself, then you'll figure it out. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 09:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tracked in Phabricator
Task T365119
@N509FZ Sorry to insist, but I want to understand if I got it right.
You are uploading different medias through UploadWizard that share the same description. The description of the first media does not get copied to other medias when you select the option. Am I right? If so, as I said, this is a bug, and we'll investigate on that immediately. I filed T365119, and put you in copy to the ticket, so you can see what is happening.
About the description vanishing after returning from Upload to Describe, I'm not sure what is going on. I must insist on you describing better what is happening. I know you are frustrated, but I'm here to help you fixing this annoying bug. I can assure you I will make my best to make it fixed as soon as possible. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 10:14, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately the previous glitches still exist. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 00:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Upload (Files 1, 2) → Release rights → Describe (descriptions of Files 1, 2 filled) → Release rights → Describe (previously-filled descriptions of Files 1, 2 MISSING). That's what happened even if another file isn't added. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 00:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@N509FZ We found the problem to the first problem and put a fix to it. It should be fixed in a matter of days. I apologise on behalf of the team for the disruption. For this other problem, it's gonna take a bit more time. I'll open a ticket as soon as possible about it. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 08:56, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, let me examine... the metadata still can't be read (such as the "title" of the uploading file which has been previously set in the "properties" before uploading), and still the filled description in the UploadWizard goes missing after "Describe → Release rights → Describe" process. Wait a minute, I didn't see "take a bit more time", so I still reserve the rights of commentation until the glitch is finally solved. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 11:52, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@N509FZ It really depends how complicated it is, and then we have to wait for the deployment train to go. I'll keep you posted about it. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 17:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Roger that, but by the time it got done, comments and objections would have flooded this page already. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 18:04, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can we please get rid of the "compulsory" captions? Causes more problems than it solves, the idea of captions is to be a summarized description but I shouldn't be forced to add one. Where has the community made this "compulsory"? Bidgee (talk) 10:25, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, and I also am experiencing the wizard failing to copy the descriptions. It shouldn't be forced upon me. I'm writing very short captions, but my descriptions are already pretty succinct as they are. SWinxy (talk) 11:38, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
UploadWizard improvements - Caption & description.png
UploadWizard improvements - Caption & description.png
@Bidgee @SWinxy The change about caption has been presented in a previous community discussion, you can find a rationale for the change in the image on the right. As for the copy description, I opened a ticket for that, and we'll look into it ASAP. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 13:58, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please make it optional, I see zero community consensus in making it compulsory.
The rationale totally ignores the fact that detailed descriptions will be made in the captions (when it should be a short summary of the description) and it is no different (between descriptions and captions) when it comes to multilingual. Bidgee (talk) 18:51, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sannita: I completely disagree with the assertion that there was consensus that captions should be mandatory. Nobody remarked on that part. Nobody. I checked the discussion.
Also, that image does not sufficiently justify this change. At all.

Make Captions a required field. - Most users (especially new users) find entering captions significantly easier than providing detailed descriptions. - Additionally, captions offer a more structure multilingual field that we should encourage users to fill out.

— Text from image regarding captions.
Nothing about that is a rational for this change.
It's a maybe a good rational for maybe accepting the caption as an alternative to the description field, but sure doesn't justify mandating it if you've used the description field.-- The Navigators (talk) 07:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also Sdkb raised about "Captions offer a more structured multilingual field," but never got an answer for it. I again will state it does nothing to add structured multilingual description in the caption or even the description, since I would be only adding what language I know. So this forced change does nothing to support the increase in multilingual captions/descriptions.
The fact is caption is also licensed under CC0 (this isn't made clear in the UW BTW), whereas the description is licensed under CC-SA 4.0, is misleading contributors.
The fact the developers claim the change had community support is a joke (there was no site-wide notice or even proposal on Village Pump) and the fact they refuse to engauge to the opposition for the change is a problem and have not learned from the past. Bidgee (talk) 08:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's it. Bureaucracy is destroying this (previously) convenient platform. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 09:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't necessarily agree with Bidgee's last remark (on user recalcitrance), but I completely agree that captions are not mandatory and do not have any localization advantage over descriptions. In my opinion they were a somewhat questionable addition to the structured data (there is nothing particularly structured about them). The only advantage I see to them over descriptions is the fact that it is probably easier for a machine to find a data element in SDC than to parse a template, but machines are not our primary audience. - Jmabel ! talk 14:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Automatic numeration is defekt[edit]

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T365107

All files got the same number (of the last file) -> duplicate file name. Is there no test before? --DALIBRI (talk) 05:34, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @DALIBRI: , I opened a Phabricator ticket about this bug. I hope to let you know as soon as possible.--Sannita (WMF) (talk) 08:56, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Sannita, many thanks to you. --DALIBRI (talk) 07:07, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DALIBRI We found the problem, and we already put in a fix for that. Sorry for the disruption. The fix should be on in a matter of days. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 08:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Caption same as Description: boring and confusing[edit]

The upload system that started today is boring and confusing. It would make it easier for users who insert the same information in the "caption" and in the "description", but it makes it more difficult for those who add other notes in the description. It forces you to open the text box for each file, by removing the check mark from the checkbox, and also does not work copying the description of the first file in the following ones. Fabrizio Garrisi (talk) 18:43, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, disturbing. Such an abrupt update could possibly withdraw some uploaders from Commons from my perspective. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 07:16, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’m ceasing uploading photographs until it is rolled back or is made optional. Forcing uploaders to add captions will not end up with better captions and file descriptions. Just creating further work for the volunteer community. Bidgee (talk) 07:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi all, we're fixing the bug that doesn't allow to copy descriptions to other medias. In a matter of days, the fix should we working.
As for users who differentiate between captions and descriptions, I already asked the developers if it's possible to have another preference that would allow users to check/uncheck by default that option, so that they don't have to do it every time. This is likely to take some more time to discuss, and I will keep you posted on that. --Sannita (WMF) (talk) 09:10, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just make captions optional, like how they were before this change that had no community support was made. Bidgee (talk) 11:00, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are more bugs in this change, and I would expect developers perform heavy tests before pushing it to production for so important form. It is really disturbing. In addition to above - the caption field is required in some scenarios even if I uncheck the same as option and provide the description. The licenses for captions and descriptions are different, so I expect to be able to decide what I want to do. With this change it seems we are pushed to fill the captions (CC0). Also, there is another bug with the copying feature - the automatic numbering of the file names doesn't work properly - the numbers become all the same and thus the validation fails, so I need to correct them manually. Nova (talk) 08:42, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The preference that would allow users to check/uncheck by default the option in question is a very good idea, but then the captions should be optional. Nova (talk) 08:49, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
IMHO only filling one of these two (caption or description) should be mandatory, at the user's discretion. If the user chose the caption (CC0), the description should be automatically filled with the caption then. Strakhov (talk) 16:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would not even do this. The description should be mandatory and the box that allows copying the caption to the description should be empty by default. Only if it is checked intentionally by the user, the caption should be automatically copied to the description. --Robert Flogaus-Faust (talk) 17:17, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, there are other differences than the license between captions and descriptions. Captions cannot contain markup, so no links, no bold or italic characters etc. See also Commons:File captions. --Robert Flogaus-Faust (talk) 17:21, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only issue I have with this is that, with captions not allowing markup, meaning it's not possible to set scientific names in cursive as they should be, if someone is uploading photos of life forms they'll have to fix it manually in the description. Very small problem for me, could be bigger for others. -- Syrio posso aiutare? 20:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
+1. No markup means no formatting required by scientific standards, but also no links and length limitations. It is OK, but as long as it is also clear that captions are not the same as descriptions in the matter of purpose, license, content and thus available functions. IMHO simplifying one scenario shouldn't disturb others. Nova (talk) 12:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There isn't even changes in the "preference". N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 02:07, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Complicating the procedures for users is a grave taboo for developers, unfortunately some of them didn't realize it, which would eventually lead to the destruction of users' trust. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 02:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Updated version of Wizard Upload are increasing difficult, its dismayed by any users if uploading a files. It's so pretty criticising, i recently uploading a new files and copied from titles. Caption-required are worst solution. Firzafp supports #SaveHTTP (talk) 07:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Going to join in on this being mandatory when you provide a description, and the 'Same as caption' check box being checked by default are both garbage. It's aggravating because I provide detailed descriptions, and the caption function adds nothing. Joining Bidgee in refusing to do further uploads until this is reversed. I'm not doing the extra work of devising inferior captions, and I'm not half-assing my uploads by giving them a 250 character description without markup. I already have to do enough extra work fixing my descriptions post upload, because of format issues I can't check for due to the lack of a preview function when typing up file descriptions.
(Love that I noticed this after I went through doing doing descriptions for 14 files, going to upload and getting told "Caption is required" warning and having to go do that.)--The Navigators (talk) 06:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

+1. same here. waiting for the wizard to be rolled back to last stable version. RZuo (talk) 07:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I completely agree with the criticism about the new system. Undo the changes, please. Now.--LBM1948 (talk) 07:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, new problem

  1. Upload more photos of the same subject
  2. Manually write the captions AND the description in the first photo
  3. Automatically copy the details for every photo
  4. If you do not manually uncheck the "description same as caption" checkbox in very other photo, the descriptions will not be copied. -- Syrio posso aiutare? 09:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion for developers - make a mock wizard and test new concepts before releasing it[edit]

can you make a mock / test / beta version and invite users to try it out first, before you roll out major changes?

no need to even mention the controversy about the caption/description change. how could you get the automatic numbering wrong, and not patch it after 3 days now? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T365107 the fix is sitting idle since 17 may?!

with 200 million dollars a year this kind of horrible user experience is completely unexpected and unacceptable. (m:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2023-2024/Finances#Detailed_budget). RZuo (talk) 09:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Wait for the deployment train to go"? What if the users all left here before it goes? N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 10:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What if? What if random backports brought the site down multiple times a week like in the 2000s ? I mean i get the frustration, but let’s be realistic at the same time. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But the new version of UW seems to consume more memory. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 11:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't the excuse of WORSENING the user experience after nearly 20 years. N509FZ Talk 前置，有座！Front engine with seats! 11:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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